Interface 3: Inside-out

What the forms keep saying to us is, look at me. Look at me. I’m interesting. Well, the lions are lying because they say THEY are the reality.  OK, we’re on step two of the Golden Lion. Step one is we’ll leave it alone. There’s gold in this lion. You’ve got to figure out. Could be form an emptiness, could be appearance and Brahman could be lots of things, could be contents of experience and your awareness.

But step two is something’s wrong here. The lion is very fascinating. It’s sticky. It wants us to follow those little. Did you see how fascinating it was to zoom in on that Mandelbrot set? Wow. I wonder what we’re going to find next. Oh, a new infinity. Wow. Something really interesting. Or maybe enlightenment is at the end of that thread somewhere. Right.

I mean, whatever you think. Oh, here’s my path. Finally, I found my quest. Here’s my path. I found it. It’s going. It’s going where it’s going to more complex, complicated stuff.

So FaTsang is trying to say to the Empress, Look, here’s the way things are. We need to revision a little: what you thought was so solid and so fabulous and so interesting is continuously interdependent, constantly changing forms, never ending. It goes on and on and on and it’ll be universe after universe. And that’s great. On the other hand, that which you thought was so immaterial, that which you thought was less real, is the most real.  As Citsukha said long ago: “Consciousness is that which is never an object, but immediately usable in every moment of experience.”

This isn’t only in our metaphysics, but also science that I like to put in once in a while.

Here’s from Max Planck.

“As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, the study of matter. I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms, this much there is no matter perse.“

OK, so remember, we’re starting with the universe, then gold is matter. Maybe that’s where science started. But even Max Planck says there is no matter perse.

“, all matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.”

Now, I like this quote because it’s Max Planck. what you see as the universe has as its backing every instant, every moment, conscious and intelligent mind.

Here’s another one from Planck.

“I regard consciousness as fundamental, I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything we talk about, everything we regard is existing postulates. Consciousness.”

One more… it’s from a scientist Fred Allen Wolff. “ what I thought was most real. Now I find to be less real. And what I thought to be less real. I now find to be more real.

Science can’t take out consciousness and measure it, can’t take out the primordial awareness and look at it. But Without awareness, without consciousness there’s no experience, period– it’s nothing.

Here’s a few from PB:

We live in a universe which is only one amid an infinity of other universes whose patterns, as we find with individual living things, show infinite differences of detail while sharing certain basic general forms.  26.1.31

“The world Mind is expressing through an infinite number of minds its own infinitude multiplied by infinity, an infinite number of times.”

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